Does anyone know the exact conversion in feet for a minute of latitude and
longitude?

brucrx wrote:

> Does anyone know the exact conversion in feet for a minute of latitude and
> longitude?

Longitude is easy: 1 minute of longitude equals 1 foot ... if you
measure at the right latitude, that is.

Latitude is nearly as easy: Guess how the nautical mile has been defined?

Stefan

>Does anyone know the exact conversion in feet for a minute of latitude and
>longitude?

I find this on the web:

Latitude: 3.64 feet per 0.00001 degree, 6.06 feet per 0.001 minute,
10.10 feet per 0.1 second, 101.1 feet per second, 6066.7 feet per
minute.
Longitude: 3.04 feet per 0.00001 degree, 5.07 feet per 0.001 minute,
8.45 feet per 0.1 second, 84.5 feet per second, 5066.7 feet per
minute.

But I am scratching my head over the longitude! Doesn't a minute of
longitude depend on your location between the pole and the equator?

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Okay, here's a more convincing exegesis, also found on the web (Google
is your friend!):

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A degree of latitude is 60 nautical miles, or 69.04 statute miles. A
minute of latitude is equal to one nautical mile, or 6076 feet; thus,
a second of latitude (6076 divided by 60) is 101 feet, 3 inches.
Conceptually and practically, latitude is the same no matter where you
go on earth; however, in reality it varies from 69.41 statute miles
per minute at the poles to 68.70 statute miles per minute at the
equator due to the earth bulging slightly from its rotational spin.
Longitude, of course, varies in length according to degree of
latitude. The following is a sampling of longitude lengths for
selected latitudes, beginning in the southern US and working north.

30 degrees North, (approximately Houston, Texas) a degree of longitude
is 59.96 statute miles, 5274 feet per minute (almost equal to a
statute mile), 88 feet per second.

35 degrees North, (approximately Albuquerque, New Mexico) a degree of
longitude is 56.73 statute miles, 4992 feet per minute, 83.2 feet per
second.

40 degrees North, (Kansas/Nebraska border), a degree of longitude is
53.06 statute miles, 4669 feet per minute, 77.8 feet per second.

45 degrees North, (Montana/Wyoming border), a degree of longitude is
49.00 statute miles, 4312 feet per minute, 71.87 feet per second.

49 degrees North (US/Canada national boundary), a degree of longitude
is 45.40 statute miles, 3995 feet per minute, 66.59 feet per second.

50 degrees North (approximately Powell River, BC, Medicine Hat,
Alberta, and Winnipeg, Manitoba), a minute of longitude is 44.55
statue miles, 3920 feet (1195 meters) per minute, 65.34 feet (19.9
meters) per second.

55 degrees North (approximately Ketchikan, Alaska and Dawson Creek,
BC) a degree of longitude is 39.77 statute miles, 3500 feet (1066.8
meters) per minute, 58.33 (17.78 meters) per second.

Finally, 60 degrees North (southern border of the Northwest
Territories), a degree of longitude is 34.67 statute miles, 3051 feet
(930 meters) per minute, 50.85 feet (15.5 meters) per second.

Whew! (grin) Had enough? I know I have! Hope this helps.

************************************************** ********************

A tip of the virtual hat to "Senty" at
http://www.hypernews.org/HyperNews/get/trails/SAR/291/1.html?nogifs



On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 06:30:33 -0500, Cub Driver
> wrote:

>
>>Does anyone know the exact conversion in feet for a minute of latitude and
>>longitude?
>
>I find this on the web:
>
>Latitude: 3.64 feet per 0.00001 degree, 6.06 feet per 0.001 minute,
>10.10 feet per 0.1 second, 101.1 feet per second, 6066.7 feet per
>minute.
>Longitude: 3.04 feet per 0.00001 degree, 5.07 feet per 0.001 minute,
>8.45 feet per 0.1 second, 84.5 feet per second, 5066.7 feet per
>minute.
>
>But I am scratching my head over the longitude! Doesn't a minute of
>longitude depend on your location between the pole and the equator?
>
>all the best -- Dan Ford
>email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)
>
>Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
>Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
>the blog www.danford.net

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
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the blog www.danford.net

brucrx wrote:
> Does anyone know the exact conversion in feet for a minute of latitude and
> longitude?
>
>
Did you poke around in the setup screens of your GPS. If you can
get it into a state plane or UTM readout it will read out in some
distance (typically meters). I know I can get my Garmin 195 into
UTM.

On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 21:35:16 -0600, "brucrx" >
wrote:

>Does anyone know the exact conversion in feet for a minute of latitude and
>longitude?

1 degree of latitude = 60nm = 69sm = 364320 feet
60 minutes = 1 degree, so 1 minute = 364320/60= 6072 feet (or 1 nm)

Longitude varies depending on latitude. At the equator, the above
numbers are accurate.

"Ron Natalie" > wrote
> >
> Did you poke around in the setup screens of your GPS. If you can
> get it into a state plane or UTM readout it will read out in some
> distance (typically meters). I know I can get my Garmin 195 into
> UTM.

State plane?

UTM?
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Morgans wrote:

>
> State plane?
>
> UTM?

There are other coordinate systems than lat/long. A state plane picks
an arbitrary place in the state and measures in feet (or meters) from
that North and East. Similarly, Universal Transverse Mercator chops up
the earth into 3 degree zones and then makes meters north and east from
a reference point in that zone.

It's a bit more involved than that, but it's good enough for the precision
of what unassisted GPS is going to give you.

"Ron Natalie" > wrote
>
> There are other coordinate systems than lat/long. A state plane picks
> an arbitrary place in the state and measures in feet (or meters) from
> that North and East. Similarly, Universal Transverse Mercator chops up
> the earth into 3 degree zones and then makes meters north and east from
> a reference point in that zone.


Sounds like something used mainly by surveyors?
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>Sounds like something used mainly by surveyors?

In the deeds I read, surveyers measured by chains and rods. I think
they also used perches, but I have never seen a reference to one.

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"Cub Driver" > wrote in message
...
>
> >Sounds like something used mainly by surveyors?
>
> In the deeds I read, surveyers measured by chains and rods. I think
> they also used perches, but I have never seen a reference to one.
>
> all the best -- Dan Ford
>
The ones I have seen lately use mainly lasers and detectors. I think GPS is
used in some manner, also.
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Morgans wrote:
> "Ron Natalie" > wrote
>
>>There are other coordinate systems than lat/long. A state plane picks
>>an arbitrary place in the state and measures in feet (or meters) from
>>that North and East. Similarly, Universal Transverse Mercator chops up
>>the earth into 3 degree zones and then makes meters north and east from
>>a reference point in that zone.
>
>
>
> Sounds like something used mainly by surveyors?

Not just surveyers. Most government and utility based stuff uses
state plane coordinates. It makes the math easier and more accurate
since the state plane (in some larger states there may be several)
is defined for a local area.

On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 06:54:49 -0500, "Morgans"
> wrote:

>> In the deeds I read, surveyers measured by chains and rods. I think
>> they also used perches, but I have never seen a reference to one.
>>
>> all the best -- Dan Ford
>>
>The ones I have seen lately use mainly lasers and detectors. I think GPS is
>used in some manner, also.

I meant that the survey literally recorded measurements as "three
chains, two rods from the oak tree to the other oak tree".

(I particularly like "the other oak" :)

One chain = 66 feet.

One rod = 16.5 feet

(How would you like to carry that chain and rod around with you all
day?)


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Cub Driver wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 06:54:49 -0500, "Morgans"
> > wrote:
>
>
>>>In the deeds I read, surveyers measured by chains and rods. I think
>>>they also used perches, but I have never seen a reference to one.
>>>
>>>all the best -- Dan Ford
>>>
>>
>>The ones I have seen lately use mainly lasers and detectors. I think GPS is
>>used in some manner, also.
>
>
> I meant that the survey literally recorded measurements as "three
> chains, two rods from the oak tree to the other oak tree".
>
> (I particularly like "the other oak" :)
>
> One chain = 66 feet.
>
> One rod = 16.5 feet

Just how does modern surveying equipment work? One guy holds one of
those mirrors (actually a prism) that reflects light back to the source,
independent of the angle of the mirror. The instrument head contains a
laser. Distances must be measured by angles, but how?

Cub Driver wrote:
>
> (How would you like to carry that chain and rod around with you all
> day?)

That's what they have apprentices for. :-)

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

>
> Just how does modern surveying equipment work? One guy holds one of those
> mirrors (actually a prism) that reflects light back to the source,
> independent of the angle of the mirror. The instrument head contains a
> laser. Distances must be measured by angles, but how?

Akshully, it is not a prism -- it is more like a corner relfector whereby
any incident energy entereing the front is reflected back toward the source.
In case of the ranging instrument using a laser. The transmitter sends out a
discrete pulse of energy and measures the time it takes for the pulse to
return to a colocated receiver. The round-trip time is divided in half then
multiplied by a constant approximating one nano-second per foot to reveal
the slant-range distance. Angles ain't needed unless the surveyor must
calculate the horizontal distance, in which case he needs the alpha-angle
and that is done with a protractor.

Cub Driver ) wrote:
:
: >Does anyone know the exact conversion in feet for a minute of latitude and
: >longitude?
:
: But I am scratching my head over the longitude! Doesn't a minute of
: longitude depend on your location between the pole and the equator?

You plug the latitude into the cosine function and that gives you
a factor to tell you how short the longitide is.

cos(0)=1 cos(90)=0 cos(60)=.5

So if one minute (1/60th of a degree) is one nmi at the equator,
then at poles its 1*cos(90)=0 or at 60 degrees north (or south)
its 1*cos(60)=.5

Google claims 1 nautical mile = 6 076.11549 feet so
at 60 degrees it should be about 3038 feet.

-tim
http://web.abnormal.com

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:47:56 GMT, "William W. Plummer"
> wrote:

>Just how does modern surveying equipment work? One guy holds one of
>those mirrors (actually a prism) that reflects light back to the source,
>independent of the angle of the mirror. The instrument head contains a
>laser. Distances must be measured by angles, but how?

Speed of light?

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On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 at 06:35:23 in message
>, Tim Hogard >
wrote:

>Google claims 1 nautical mile = 6 076.11549 feet so

That's right it is the international nautical Mile,
which is exactly 1,852 metres

I am not sure if the UK nm still exists - that was 6080 ft. Does anyone
know how the UK came to have their own version? I assume it has
disappeared but I am not sure when it did.
--
David CL Francis

David CL Francis wrote:
>
> I am not sure if the UK nm still exists - that was 6080 ft. Does anyone
> know how the UK came to have their own version? I assume it has
> disappeared but I am not sure when it did.

According to a reference I found on British measurements, the nautical mile is --
"Unit of length, normally at sea or in the air. Originally, the Admiralty fixed it at
6080 feet. This unit is universally used by international law by ships and aircraft,
as is the derived unit of the knot.
In the 20th century, an international nautical mile was defined as 1852 metres, and
so you will sometimes see the 6080ft nautical mile called the British nautical mile."

So it would seem that the international nautical mile is not used for navigation.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.